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Bmw m5 f10 лошадиные силы

To comply with ever tightening efficiency regulations, BMW’s fifth generation M5 super saloon swapped it’s screaming V10 for a more eco-friendly (but still fiendishly fast) twin-turbo V8.

The 4.4 litre twin turbo V8 produces an impressive 552 bhp and 502 ftlb of torque, the kind of power normally reserved for supercars. This moves the near 2 tonne BMW from 0-60mph in just 4 sec. indeed, to save weight and lower the car’s center of gravity, the M5 features a bespoke carbon roof.

Interior is comfortable and full of tech, but could perhaps be a little more special to distinguish it from lesser 5 -series.

The optional ‘Performance Package’ increases power to 575 hp with a 190mph max (if taken with the ‘M Drivers Package’), plus a lowered, more aggressive suspension setup.

Super fast, but lacking the excitement of the 4th gen V10, used M5s now available for around the �25k mark. This represents stunning value for one of the worlds best super salooons.

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BMW M5 (F10) specs

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Sport Auto 9/2012 Supertest for simple M5 F10 (560 PS), Nordschleife — 8:05. Please, add link.

This is my fathers current car. It is a USDM spec 2014 model year equipped with the rare frozen matte grey color. He has had it for about 2 years now, and so far he is really enjoying it(!). Though he does complain about the loud squealing noise the carbon ceramics make, and the lack of traction.

2013 BMW M5
560-hp twin-turbo V-8, 7-speed dual-clutch automatic, 4277 lb
Base/as-tested price: $92,000/$97,000 (est.)
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 3.7 sec
100 mph: 8.1 sec
130 mph: 13.1 sec
1/4 mile: 11.9 sec @ 123 mph
Braking, 70­-0 mph: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.91 g
C/D observed fuel economy: 12 mpg

AutoBild Sportscars (7/July 2016):
Sachsenring: 1:38.66

RadicalAlpha 5y ago

The «2019 BMW M Series» ad in between The data sheets here shows a BMW M5 F1!

It can’t do 0-200kph (0-125mph) in 11.7 when it’s doing 11.9@122mph 1/4mile

It seems for the most part, Bmws that arent Ms have a big increase in price and options, But the Ms for the last couple of years see the smallest increase in price.

Its a shame though about what im hearing about the next M5 though.

Add lap time BMW M5 in Velo Città: 1:02.477

333333333 10y ago

Those acceleration numbers are ridicioulus.

Jay_Karthi 10y ago

i trust club300plus channel’s results more than gtboard.com channel’s results,on gtboard.com M5 F10 beat a FF haha what a stupid guys,FF will eat a stock M5 F10

FF beats Gallardo LP560 —

FF beats 458 Italia —

. Short answer, No, If its beating an FF, It aint stock. Other ones yes.

Still, That FF sure is sexy in black, My only problem with the FF, Is that its about 16 inches too long, Totally ruins it with those proportions, And that name? FF. Really? Atleast name it something sexy in Italian, Like FF Attraente or something, Shame it never really cought on though, A bit too powerfull they made it i think too, Should have been like 500Bhp.

Why the M5’s 7:55 Nordschleife-time is still here? There is no official time by BMW or any carmags. Sportauto did in 8:05.

Consumers yes, Comparisons no.

Guys,
Underrated power numbers is a good thing. When you’ll pay insurance for your car you’ll understand
(*not in every country)

Id say it is, Cars are tested in comparison to which is SIMILAR, That includes Price, Hp, Performance and any other thing they have in common, Your not gonna test a M5 vs a Challenger, Or a M4 vs a 991 GT3, There top models will have similiar Power figures, When do you see a 550i compared to a CTS-V? Or a V12 Vantage S vs a XK8? Its dishonesty, Saying your car has THIS much hp, then to find out it doesnt have that, Yeah pretty sure thats lying, Although i agree somewhat at what NIN said, Not bad for the consumer. But when you get performnce reviews, Its messed up.

Its interesting,
The question is: particular car would sell better if it official horsepower figures are smaller or higher than its in reality?

It depends.
If we talking about «normal» budget cars with about 80-160 hp, the car would sell better if the claimed number are higher than in reality.
For example Golf with claimed 160hp would sell better If it would have 140 hp in reality than a 120hp golf.

But with sports cars it work in opposite direction. Beceause people look mostly on reviews, and performance figures, not on pure HP so much itself. And. people do not like to be dissapointed.

First generation GT-R was a big succes beceause everybody was shocked how fast it is, people do not expect than. It won all reviews. And everybody keep saying, how its possible in 480 hp car?

Same with the BMW M5 and other performance cars.
If they would make M5 with 600hp and claimed as 550. It would rise positive reactions beceause it would be faster than people expectations, and people usually explain to themselfs good performance with low hp/weight ratio as result of hight technology components.
But again, if They would make a 500 hp car and claimed as 550. well everybody would talk. wtf is this. its slower in test than previous generation, etc. People do not care for the price, they want their next gen car faster. And also be more powerfull. That mean be beter version.

But when it come to the day when someone want buy a car, he read some reviews and

Yes it is playing dirty — coze difference between advertised power and real power is from big to huge. They do what they do because they want to make an impression that their cars are much faster than the competitors with similiar power. In another words they want to make an impression that these cars are so freakin quick due to great engineering only. But so high performance can be achieved only by combination of high technology and sufficient power.

But for customers it is a good thing :).

Wth, Lol playing dirty? People don’t test these cars against let’s say caymans or f-types. They test them against similar sized top models, NOT based on whatever horsepower. If they all underrated their power, big deal. I applaud them for producing only more and not less than the advertised capable power.

lol i laughed atleast

Getting MORE than you thought you were paying for is a goodkind of dishonesty. 🙂

In their defense, zee Germans just want to make sure that their cars make the advertised PS/HP in even the worse conditions. The guy driving through a high altitude desert will know that his car still makes the advertised power.

I think its just playing dirty, Most cars today are tested in comparison are compared to by price and Hp, Or overall performace, Considering all the glory German engineer get, It shouldnt e hard to make the Hp they claimed, Unless its on purpose, The M6 tested by SportAuto had 640Bhp, And that wasnt the CP, The M5 has around 600Hp in real money, Motortrend has called the Germans out and even dyno’d there cars and found out they were producing Alot more then claimed, Even independant tests.

I know its high tech and we cant expect ever car to produce the same number, But having more by THAT much? You kiddin me. Im all for powerful cars, But i dont see a need in lying about power, if it has 420Bhp say it has that much, I really hate dishonesty.

They downplay power ratings of their top models on quite big scale.

Bmw M6 Competition Package has for real even 680 hp. There are many examples of M6 Competition Packgage that being absolutly stock can do 100-200 km/h in mid 6s. 575 hp/19xx kgs car will never ever does 100-200 «even» in mid 7s.

Nowadays N/A engined sport cars should be exceptionally respected.

Lamborghini huracan is nowadays a real masterpiece of engineering. Obviously we cant forget about Ferrari 458 Italia, Audi R8 V10 PLUS, Porsche 997 GT3 RS 4.0, Porsche 991 GT3, Mercedes SLS, SLS GT, SLS Black Series, Gallardo Lp 560-4, Gallardo Superleggera etc — at least in these cars every single horse power is important and not easily attainable.

I respect N/A engines of super cars more and more.

From the other side in turbo engines power is so easy to achieve. And it is so easy to underrate of power figures in turbo engines.

If they say the BMW M5 produces 500hp, they are not lying. It does! it also can produce 100, 25 or even 600.

In my opinion it is a madness. As if 560 HP or 575 HP were not enough — it is crazy thing.

Thing that those cars have so much more power than it is claimed is realy messed up.

And we all know that not only BMW does it.

Mayby for a moment we will see that so called 500 hp/1900 kgs car is able to do 0-200 km/h in 8s and 400 km/h as max speed ?

That is old news homie, We all no that its not making as much as claimed, ANd various sources from different nations have proved that, Germans lie about the actual Bhp and Torque of there car, Fact, Which i think is messed up, Hell the new M3/M5 is pushing almost 500Bhp.

Bmw m5 f10 лошадиные силы

Dude, get the warranty!

So do yourself a favor buy the warranty. It’s only 3k to 5.. and I’d say you’ll be thanking me and yourself when you see that 45k bill that doesn’t cost you a single penny.

I have always stayed away from warranties and always thought they were a total waste, but when any kind of work for these cars cost at least 1k and above.. it’s worth having a warranty. It will pay for itself many times over.

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suprised BMW covered the engine from operator error.

Otherwise these have been proven to be very reliable cars even when highly tuned. Its always a gamble on a car and whether to warrant but chose right, make sure at least a full dealer service history, buy the seller if private and way up price against warranty- you can get second hand engines for ~15k plus fitting so thats your risk to way up against the warranty cost.

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And since they do read these forums you put out on the open that it clearly was your fault. Not a good move. Just saying.

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Originally Posted by boots

And since they do read these forums you put out on the open that it clearly was your fault. Not a good move. Just saying.

Cmon. LOL Yeah I seriously doubt they read forums looking to bust customers.. Should I expect a letter in the mail now? LOL

Is there a position that is in charge of scanning forums looking for customers to bust? Lol.

Operator error as the total cause is pretty hard to prove even with my admitted mistake.
Even with the minor mistake.. the car should hold up and should NEVER blow in a situation like this.
The engine blew cause there was something wrong with it. Simple. The day it blew was just the straw that broke the camels back.

On an engine like this.. You should be able to redline this engine for 10 mins without it blowing up.

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Yes they do read these forums- every manufacture does — they do have positions. Fact.

Many times people with issues post on forums to get the manufacture to take note and action a warranty claim.

You are probably safe as you have had the work done and the car back.

There is some logging capabilities in the ECU that could help them see miss-use but again as you have got your car back they obviously didn’t care. this is where a good relationship with your dealer is important, they have a vested interest in supporting a warranty claim as they get paid for the work so can ‘over look’ details like over revs, tunes etc if they wish.

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I know back when I had my ZL1 there were guys getting busted on be Chevrolet forums. I do know manufacturers do lurk on the forums but not to bust people per se. More to learn and understand how their customer base uses the car, the issues, and needs.

I don’t think they will care to report minor issues but someone filing a claim for a new motor and posting about how they did it. That will send some red flags for sure. Hence why people hide their plates and limit personal info.

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Originally Posted by Rockin-The-F10

Cmon. LOL Yeah I seriously doubt they read forums looking to bust customers.. Should I expect a letter in the mail now? LOL

Is there a position that is in charge of scanning forums looking for customers to bust? Lol.

Operator error as the total cause is pretty hard to prove even with my admitted mistake.
Even with the minor mistake.. the car should hold up and should NEVER blow in a situation like this.
The engine blew cause there was something wrong with it. Simple. The day it blew was just the straw that broke the camels back.

On an engine like this.. You should be able to redline this engine for 10 mins without it blowing up.

Bro it’s your car and your words you put out there so do whatever you want. If you think big brother don’t keep w with us your in lala land. lol. Why remove your oem words. Your not scared big brother reads the boards remember. Ha��

BMW F10 M5 vs. F90 M5 Comparison: Engine, Transmission & Reliability

Introduced in 2011, the F10 M5 was BMWs first turbocharged M5 model. Featuring a twin-turbo 4.4L V8, it departed from the previous M5s with naturally-aspirated engines. The S63 engine combined with two excellent transmissions and refined but aggressive looks made the F10 a worthy successor to the E60 M5.

The F90 M5 is the successor to the F10 M5 and was introduced in 2017. On paper, it is powered by the same S63 engine; but this is a highly revised version with higher peak power and torque, a wider powerband, and with reliability improvements.

These two M5s seem like really similar cars, both are high-performance full-size sedans powered by twin-turbo V8s. However, there are some crucial differences in terms of transmission options and drivetrain. How does the F10 M5 compare to the newer F90 M5 in terms of power, performance, handling, driving feel, and reliability?

BMW F10 M5 vs. F90 M5 Overview

f10 m5 and f90 m5 side view comparison

BMW F10 M5 BMW F90 M5
Engine 4.4L twin-turbocharged V8 (S63B44T1) 4.4L twin-turbocharged V8 (S63B44T3)
Stock Power & Torque 553 hp @ 6000-7000 rpm; 501 lb ft @ 1500-5750 rpm 592 hp @ 5600 rpm; 553 lb-ft @ 1800 rpm
Transmission 7-speed DCT, 6-speed manual ZF HP8 8-speed automatic
Size 4.91m (length) x 1.89m (width) x 1.46m (height) 4.97m (length) x 1.9m (width) x 1.47m (height)
Weight 1870 kg 1855 kg
Years Produced 2011-2016 2017-present
0-60 mph Acceleration 3.9 seconds 2.8 seconds

BMW F10 M5 vs. F90 M5 Engine & Horsepower

While both the F10 M5 and the F90 M5 are powered by the same S63 engine, the F90 M5 is powered by a newer iteration of the S63 4.4 liter twin-turbocharged V8, with a few differences and higher peak power and torque.

The F10 M5 features the S63B44T1, one of the earliest models of the S63 engine, and was the first BMW M5 equipped with a turbocharged V8. From the factory it has 553 horsepower and 501 lb-ft of torque, making it the most powerful BMW ever at the time. The F10 M5 Competition package was introduced in 2014, and it increased peak engine power to 567 hp.

The newer F90 M5 is powered by the S63B44T3, a revised version of the engine of the previous M5. Its power output is rated at 591 hp and 553 lb-ft of torque. The F90 M5 Competition was introduced in 2018 and increases peak horsepower to 617 hp while torque remains the same.

BMW significantly improved the S63 between these two M5 models, increasing both horsepower, torque, and power delivery. The F90 M5 is more powerful than the F10 M5.

BMW F10 M5 vs. F90 M5 Transmission options

The F10 M5 was offered with either a 7-speed dual-clutch transmission or a 6-speed manual transmission. Although most models were equipped with the 7-speed DCT, getting a 6-speed manual isn’t a hard task, and we’re all glad BMW offered this M5 with three pedals. Unfortunately, the F10 M5 was the last M5 model to be offered with a manual transmission.

f10 m5 manual transmission option

The F10 M5 can be had with a manual or a DCT transmission; the F90 M5 is only offered with an automatic

On the other hand, the F90 M5 has an 8-speed ZF 8HP automatic transmission. While not as exotic as a DCT, it will most likely function better in reality. Shifts are almost as quick as the outgoing DCT, but smoother, with fewer jerks at low speeds and easier to adjust to. It also offers a reduction in RPM at highway speeds which means reduced fuel consumption. The ZF HP8 is an impressive transmission.

Transmission options-wise, the F10 M5 is the clear winner, as you can choose between a high-performing DCT or a traditional 6-speed manual for complete control.

BMW F10 M5 vs. F90 M5 Drivetrain

The BMW F10 M5 is exclusively available in rear-wheel drive with power being sent to the rear wheels by either a 7-speed DCT or a 6-speed manual transmission. Purists will enjoy the 6-speed manual sending the power of the S63 engine to the rear wheels, in the most classic BMW style.

The F90 M5 is AWD only, with an RWD mode

The newer F90 M5, on the other hand, is a significant deviation for BMW M, since it is the company’s first non-SUV model to feature all-wheel drive. Its AWD powertrain has some M character, allowing it to entirely shift over to RWD and stay in that mode until it is manually switched back, this makes it an excellent choice for those that still prefer rear wheel drive.

BMW F10 M5 vs. F90 M5 Driving Dynamics

The older BMW F10 M5 has a more raw driving feel than its successor mostly due to the hydraulic steering system, a remnant of old-school BMWs. On the other hand the newer F90 M5 has a more refined driving feel, and is more subdued in terms of the road feedback it can transmit to the driver. Also, the steering wheel road feel is greatly reduced due to the switch to electric steering.

For those coming from older BMWs, the F90 M5 might feel numb and a bit disconnected from the driver. The capabilities of the suspension and drivetrain are not well announced to the driver as BMW seemed to prioritize driver and passenger comfort over a connected driving experience.

The BMW F10 M5 is the clear winner regarding driving feel. However, both of these M5s won’t be as engaging as other smaller M cars, such as the M3.

BMW F10 M5 vs. F90 M5 Tuning and Mods

In terms of tuning and modifications, the BMW F10 M5 and F90 M5 are similar since they share essentially the same engine. The F90 responds better to the same mods due to slight engine improvements as it is powered by an updated S63 engine.

A catless downpipe, upgraded chargepipe and a tune alone bring considerable power gains, with the F90 reaching around ~800 wheel horsepower with those two simple mods alone. Other mods include upgraded intake, fuel injectors, spark plugs, and ignition coils. If you want to exploit all the potential of the S63, upgraded turbos can take the F10 M5 and the F90 M5 to the 1000-horsepower territory.

Both are excellent tuning platforms, but the F90 M5 can gain more power from the same mods

The AWD powertrain and the updated 8-speed ZF automatic gearbox make the F90 far more likely to be able to put all the power down. The RWD-only F10 M5 might struggle to put the power of a modded S63 to the ground at low speeds.

Overall, these are excellent tuner platforms that respond well to simple mods, and upgraded turbos can take the performance of these machines on par with modded supercars.

BMW F10 M5 vs. F90 M5 Styling

Styling and exterior looks are very subjective, but most can agree that any BMW M5 strikes an excellent balance between an elegant German saloon and a high-performing sports car.

BMW did an excellent job keeping the F10 M5 looking like a regular full-size sedan unless you know what to look for, and it makes for a great transition between old-school M5s and the new F90. In terms of looks, the F10 M5 looks subdued but very elegant, almost like a regular 5 Series.

f10 m5 and f90 m5 lci front end comparison

The striking and assertive appearance is among the initial features you observe as you approach the redesigned F90 M5. The pre-LCI F90 M5 looked very similar to the outgoing F10, as the design of the headlights and tail lights pretty much remained the same.

With the LCI facelift, the F90 M5 is arguably the best-looking modern BMW, as it incorporates the new BMW design philosophy but also retains the small kidney grilles.

BMW F10 M5 vs. F90 M5 Reliability

A BMW M5 isn’t known for its high reliability and low running costs. After all, this is a four-door sedan that can put supercars to shame on a straight line. With a newer iteration of the S63 engine, the F90 M5 should be more reliable than the F10 M5 which featured the first twin-turbo V8 on an M5.

Common issues for both vehicles include but are not limited to: failing spark plugs and ignition coils, VANOS issues, excessive oil consumption, failed turbochargers, and excessive rod bearing wear. The early S63B44T1 used in the F10 M5 was notorious for being a very high-maintenance engine with a short life expectancy.

The updated S63 in the F90 M5 should be more reliable

With many of the S63 engine issues corrected, the S63B44T3 in the F90 M5 should be more reliable in the long run due to stronger internals, updated ignition coils, and improved engine design in general.

If you’re looking for the best possible reliability with a high-performing BMW engine, we recommend you opt for a turbocharged straight six instead, such as the S58 or B58.

BMW F10 M5 vs. F90 M5 Price & Value

With early models being over a decade old now, the F10 M5 is a great value provided you can get your hands on a well-maintained model or are ready to take care of maintenance items with a trusted BMW mechanic. Unfortunately, doing maintenance yourself on the F10 M5 is difficult unless you already have experience doing so with other similar high-performance German sedans. A used F10 M5 can be had for $25,000 or less.

The F90 M5, on the other hand, is not inexpensive. Fantastic performance, luxurious interior, and modern technology come at a great cost. The F90 M5 goes for more than $90,000, and a well-optioned F90 M5 Competition can cost upwards of $130,000. But while it’s not an economical car, it is priced comparably to its rivals; the Audi RS6 and the Mercedes E63 AMG are the obvious competitors, both of which are priced similarly. An early second-hand can be had for $65,000 or less.

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